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Frenzy
Frenzy wrote
at 1:21 AM, Thursday January 1, 2009 EST
Why has it become so hard to win hands anymore? It seems too that so many are going all-in on nothing. Not wanting sour grapes being an excuse but the small tables just go crazy. It's as if they don't care how much they screw everyone up. This is my second year to play and every month it gets worse. Oh, it' probably just me, but it sure seems different. Maybe one of these days we could have tables labeled for the ones who are trying opposed to the one there to just have fun, not carying to "get anywhere."

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coolchick wrote
at 4:40 AM, Thursday January 1, 2009 EST
When the "200" table moved from 2000-40000 to 10,000-20,000 ,it became the new all-in table.I logged 11 all-ins in 20 hands on one table.

We just didn't see that when it was a 40k max buy in, because the potential loss was so much higher.

I'd be much happier with..
0- 5000
5000-40,000
40,000-200,000

Then I think we'd see less "shit or bust" play to reach the next threshold.
Danny_DCB wrote
at 5:25 AM, Thursday January 1, 2009 EST
@frenzy: Try playing shorthanded tables, like 4 players max. It works miracles on the kiddies level.

@coolchick: The new limits go against all inning imho. With the old limits you had to win a single all in to move up from the 25/50 table, now you have to win 3. That makes it much harder to access the higher tables with this "strategy".

I have to admit that I did expect the decrease in the amount of money in the top 100 to be higher. But apparently the tournies have a quite formidable effect. It's interesting that except for the top 20 or so the whole leaderboard is on the same chip count as two months ago, before the change.
coolchick wrote
at 6:08 AM, Thursday January 1, 2009 EST
I disagree Danny.With unlimited betting, the "50" table will remain the free for all that it's always been in my 18 month experience.

My beef is that the "200" table has gone the same way.
Danny_DCB wrote
at 9:05 AM, Thursday January 1, 2009 EST
My point is that if you play poorly you now need much more luck to get to the higher tables. If you're an all inner you will stay on the 25/50 tables much longer before you're allowed to the 100/200 ones and thus improving the average playing skill on every table beyond 25/50.

And people that have hundreds of thousands of chips and go to the lower tables to all in for fun? Now that's a completely different matter.
coolchick wrote
at 5:22 PM, Thursday January 1, 2009 EST
vikkib33 (200) table, 5 minutes ago...15 hands, 11 all-ins pre flop. Only 2 were uncontested: of the other 9,the perpetrators won 3, lost 6.

OK so its day 1, but this is exactly what Frenzy was talking about.
connor f wrote
at 6:38 PM, Thursday January 1, 2009 EST
You will never get a realistic game when it's FREE.
Lexation wrote
at 11:10 PM, Thursday January 1, 2009 EST
No, Connor, Tournaments have a markedly higher playing standard.
connor f wrote
at 4:48 AM, Friday January 2, 2009 EST
I agree that the tourneys see better play but with no REAL money you will NEVER get close to the true game.
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