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Low Stakes cash game
JulesDogg wrote
at 9:59 AM, Tuesday February 17, 2009 EST
Scenario: You are playing in a $0.10/$0.25 six-handed cash game. It's a pretty standard loose/passive game. You have a stack of $13 when the action is folded to you on the button, holding As-9d. You make a standard 3x raise to $0.75, SB folds, BB with $22 stack calls.

The flop comes 3c-6c-Ad and BB bets $1 into $1.60. You have paired you Ace, but after the villain leads out you're not as happy with your hand and just call hoping to keep the pot small.

The turn is 2s and the villain fires again, this time $2.50 making the pot $6.10. Again you call.

The river is 2h. The villain checks and you bet $2 into $8.60 hoping to extract some value for your Ace. However the villain makes a min re-raise to $4 and you reluctantly call. He shows AK and takes the pot.

Was the value bet on the river a bad idea and what do you make of the hand as a whole?

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OPBoot wrote
at 12:33 PM, Tuesday February 17, 2009 EST
Your call after the flop is the problem.
Having been hit by a raise after that flop, you've got to re-raise or fold.

Just my £0.02
JulesDogg wrote
at 12:42 PM, Tuesday February 17, 2009 EST
why?
OPBoot wrote
at 12:47 PM, Tuesday February 17, 2009 EST
To find out where the villain's at, and to protect your AA (against e.g. villian hitting low pair, or chasing a straight).
link4 wrote
at 1:03 PM, Tuesday February 17, 2009 EST
hmm
if i were in this hand i would have done nearly all the same but the reraise on the river i wouldnt call because it seems like he wants a call.
JulesDogg wrote
at 1:14 PM, Tuesday February 17, 2009 EST
A lot of ppl would raise the flop bet. I have two problems with the raise. 1. If he re-raises we have problems. 2. The pot size escalates and our hand isn't that good.

What hand do you put him on after the flop?
Danny_DCB wrote
at 1:31 PM, Tuesday February 17, 2009 EST
I'm not really sure I get your point Jules. Do you want us to say why we think it was badly played? What would we do instead and why? Or what?
JulesDogg wrote
at 1:54 PM, Tuesday February 17, 2009 EST
Interested in your general thoughts on the hand, and the river bet in particular
Danny_DCB wrote
at 2:44 PM, Tuesday February 17, 2009 EST
Well my alarms would be set off at the flop for sure. BB bets out of position into a preflop raiser (although I was the button so he might have thought I was just stealing the blinds). By that time I would say him to have an ace. Why? His bet signifies he probably doesn't have a straight draw or a flush draw. He didn't re-raise me preflop so he probably doesn't have a good card (not really true I admit but I'm talking mainly about mid-high pocket pairs). And a low pair, whether it's sixes, threes or pockets, sounds like a too weak card to bet in such a way. So after the flop my guess would be he has an ace with a low-mid kicker at least. Depending on whether I'd read his profile as aggressive or tight I'd either raise (some $3 or so) or fold. Call in this case turned out to be the worst possible thing because that way I told him I din't have as strong card as I'd have liked. Which means he can keep pushing on turn and river and possibly make me fold without even seeing his cards.

The 2 on turn apparently didn't change anything so whatever reason made me call on flop would work here as well.

The valuebet on river was a weird decision though. If I was certain I had a better hand I would surely bet more - the opponent has shown a willingness to bet a lot throughout this game. Or I might have bluffed with an even higher bet (probably not in this case, especially against an almost twice the stack size). But most probably I would have just checked and hoped because by that time I would be quite certain I lost. Value bet in such a situation is just a waste of chips. It will certainly not scare him off cause of my calls on flop and turn.

However... we have a certain proverb in Czechia, it goes like this: "Po bitvě je ka¾dý generál", meaning Everyone's a general after the battle. So saying what I'd do knowing the outcome is quite easy...

Oh yeah, and damn you for making me go through the grammar tense hell. I hope it's as hard for you to read as it was for me to write. :P
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