Hadn't noticed myer, but the other night I have never had so many pocket pair back to back or flopped trips in the time I have been here.

Myerlyn, Why would you sit here and complain about the cards. But then you will bring back up a post i wrote 2 years ago complaining about the same thing. You dont make any sense man.

Probability of a pair on the flop:

P(xxy or xyx or yxx) = 4C2*48*13/52C3 = 0.1694

P(xxy or xyx or yxx) = 16.94%

Nothing particularly unusual about the pairing flops you have noticed. Pairs flop approximately 17% of the time (see above). By the way, a sample of 30 or so hands is far to small for the data to have any relevance.

If you collect a sample of 1000 to 2000 flops I'll bet that the number of paired flops in the sample isn't far off 17%.

Here's another way to derive the same probability.

P(xxy,xyx,yxx) = (4/52)(3/51)(4/50)(3)(13)(12)

so

P(xxy,xyx,yxx) = 16.9%

Thank you rattus for bringing in some basic statistics into this constant complaints about the draw of the cards.

Again people, the way gpokr does not compare to "normal" poker is not the cards but the way people treat there chips. Because many don't care too much they call with anything thus leading to more hands played to the river thus just more scenarios that upfront would seem "odd".

And the players that play according to the maths shouldn't complain too much: they indeed are sometimes had with amazing bad beats, but x out of y time just take the chips of the noobs.

(i predict i can copy paste this text in reply to 7 out of 10 new posts).

Have fun!

Darwin, no problem, I like mathematics.

Myerlyn, you up for collecting data from a decent sized population and show us what you find? 1000 flops should do it but 2000+ would be better.

Rat Man, seriously, I think you really need to look at more in the range of at least 50,000 flops if you want to be real-world accurate man...

Make it 4 billion just to make sure.

cigsman, if that's an offer then i look forward to seeing your data : )

Rattus, I don't have the time for this research. That doesn't mean, of course, that I'm not entitled to have a view.