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This site is rigged who agrees ?
Tw1st3d Remix wrote
at 1:17 PM, Friday September 14, 2012 EDT
if any one else agrees with me please just say YES or NO its simple.


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JulesDogg wrote
at 9:58 AM, Sunday November 4, 2012 EST
For all the whinging, whining, paranoid 'rigged' freaks:

Try this....

http://company.zynga.com/games/zynga-poker

Now be gone with you.
ez2bez wrote
at 1:17 AM, Monday November 5, 2012 EST
yes and either ryan dews dont care or he is to stupid to fix it
Rerazor wrote
at 3:35 PM, Friday October 30, 2015 EDT
Technically, yes it's rigged and i am linking the data to corroborate it. The higher the deviation is presently from the norm, the smaller the sample size is needed to prove the irregularity. After running 3 months straight with the overwhelming majority of beats on the turn and river I noticed a preprogrammed algorithm/pattern where good hands either hold or bust on the turn, and junk hands always catch something then lose or win on the river. Put simply and accurately, no hole cards have any more than a 50% chance of winning here, and these odds are continuasly replicated after every round of betting, so even on the river if you have just 1 out against 1 opponent you'll secure exactly a 50% chance of hitting it. This in the industry is known as the Basic Leveler RNG or Anti-Collusion RNG. Every person is playing on luck alone, stats aren't real therefore neither are our actions/skill. I had wrongly assumed early on that gpokr was somehow the worst, but after first factoring the fact that this is play money with play money people, I realised this was just your typical standard, not too fancy RNG that most sites use., and then started/completed my test recently. The reality is, Gpokr would be better enjoyed with a proper QRNG (tightening the play) and just let the mods and players report collusion on a case by case. No suspects should be investigated until a gold medal shows up on their account though, that's feasible. The current RNG is not what this site requires, its like adding flame to fuel and is slowly burying this site. People need not feel they've wasted their lives though or been unfairly targeted because it actually does take some skill NOT TO LOSE your roll to beats (after you've lucked it up to begin) as well you can feel pretty damn confident you haven't lost too many chips to colluders, if any at all. So it's 'not all bad' IF you can handle/(have good health) these frustrating aspects.

So I had 150 accounts, with an average of 3 refills on each and callers 95% of the time, going all in every hand (and sometimes just calling down with any hand so as not to totally ruin everyone's game).
These results are available for review now, but only for around 24 hours when these accounts are to be deleted. I was unable to run up past 30k (from $1500) so to put it simply (so not to do everyone's head in) I'll just summarise the results, as the methodology is sound, common and can be reverse engineered/checked by anyone, and I do have some background working for real poker sites, as well as investigating their practices. In fact I'm reminded of a time long ago where some noob ranted and begged me for 5 years to run my analysis on a site, which after I had, proved his suspicians was right. On that particular site, good hands were getting crushed ON THE FLOP, and this was a jig/rig to make it look NOT RIGGED! lol. Really opened my eyes up to what's possible. The reality-that site used a basic RNG similar to gpokrs continuas shuffle but instead of even odds on every
round like here, it used real odds each round but from a smaller subset. The result-even stevens for all (same as is here) and that site is still operating and I've heard with the same RNG. Also it has the least 'rigged' complaints on the internet, which is no marketing accident.

Max chip= 30k
Expected= 750k
Deviation= Ã?24
Projected (real) deviation= Ã?4.5
minus at least 50% for margin of error/statistical anomaly = total
at least 2 deviations from expected norm, or in other words, stripping away any skill edge for every single player. Therefore Gpokr is 99% luck, and not much less for people who can put their opponents on a hand. Exactly what I expected to see. The test is still running though so at some point soon I should have 750k, if I'm game, but I doubt I am. After this much ass screw I'll be happy with 200k, then play as normal.

RerazorCallsBS(1-99)
SockluvsLilyL(1-ongoing)

If the question is, do I hate this RNG for this site?, my answer is yes. I do not use the word lightly, if at all. I thank and appreciate everyone putting up with my play and test, and hopefully someone I chipped up makes Top 3. I also felt some of you were playing along with my test, and that definitely helped the accuracy of my results. By fair estimation if this was a real money site I would've only been off 1 deviation, still enough to turn a profitable player into a break even.

Conclusion- Unfortunately, anyone who believes the game aspect of gpokr currently is at all fun is a certified moron. Of course I wasn't asked to give psychology tests here, but since I volunteered it, you've likely got the truth, and for free. However, what my test doesn't disprove, is that of this being an intentionally rigged site. For all I know, I may have just run very GOOD! on an extremely rigged site, but I doubt it. Rather than crying rigged might I suggest it be more productive we encourage Ryan to look seriously at the latest rng's such as qrngs. Without the continuas shuffle (ie. with a set deck). PokerStars use one but I'm pretty sure it's 10 years old and was basically the prototype version. We've come a long way since then. Sure some people might still cry rigged, but at least they won't know it because its not true, unlike now...where they most certainly are aware of it. I ask for no further questions on this, I am a retired degen, let alone exhausted 1. Ty





slapmesilly wrote
at 5:13 PM, Friday October 30, 2015 EDT
omg reazor............STFU!!
Rerazor wrote
at 8:51 PM, Friday October 30, 2015 EDT
Omg god silly thx for pretending to read it ! Pity you didn't actually read it though lol. Translating such a technical, be it only a basic test into such simple terms in actually a short space and length was probably a bigger achievement than me proving something everyone already knew anyway lol, so you definitely didnt read it which is too bad. I hear theres a dictionary being passed around this forum, though i doubt your skinny arms could lift? (i.e. irrelevant typing troll) .On 145 now, wish me luck I know you are ;)


and your interest in this thread has resparked my want for 200k to play with at this late stage. You may not be smart, silly, but you are certainly smartly a person of gentle. I've now renamed this unofficial end of my test to The Silliest 200k EVR in your honour, and to reconnect with the down and falling middle class youth of today. Let's face it, this thread is better than a lot of what they keep rechurning on TV.

Gone Away wrote
at 8:25 PM, Saturday October 31, 2015 EDT
Yes or No.. You idiot.....
Rerazor wrote
at 12:25 AM, Sunday November 1, 2015 EDT
I'm pretty sure the only idiots in this thread are the trolls that contribute nothing but insults, but thanks for stopping by. Don't be offended if I don't address you anymore though, life's a bit short for you mate.


My last update in the silly 200k challenge-

Result= 200k DENIED :(

I did go for it, and came close a couple times, 50 & 60k if I remember right, which I think I do because those 2 hands were both call downs and beats on the river lol.

What I've learned?- Is that the infamous MOP has a tough life here, and he takes it on the chin pretty well. Oh, and that the GBingo Rigged crew are a legit organisation in the eyes of the law.

I didn't even have any plans to post this but after starting my test on the fly it became apparent very quickly that I was getting solid data from everyone, and in a short space of time (trusty end of the month play/tilt) and that I would and did in fact end up with enough data that showed minorly skewed output (which is enough to devistate a player's roll), reoccuring patterns which also imply non randomness and figured that since this had been like clockwork for 3 months straight I may as well explain/confirm most people's beliefs here, with the very first legitimate, public/verifiable, statistical analysis of gpokes RNG output/biases and tack on a shout out to Ryan (like I did) to try out something new. River beat is far too predictable, and no fun at all. This 'minor' flaw in the current rng has literally turned the game on its head. Like I said/implied, we are just playing fantasy/slot poker here at least for the first 200k each player builds. Its weird and it feels weird. It feels rigged, because it is rigged. With most players averaging only 200k a month anyway, most will not get even a taste of a legit hand. Its sad I think, the reality is, players are winning gold on not much more than 1 big, legit hand + some grindage, and that ain't right. It literally means an above average player/online player could play here every month for 50 years against 2000 players and never win gold....All because of the RNG brand!, and nothing else. Its illusion poker, like chalky cheese compared to what's possible. Its like we are inside the imagination of a 4 year old girl who dreams of queens and princesses driving a speedboat down a river lol when what this place is needing and wanting is a real woman. An RNG that gives it to you straight, without the overly dramatic emotional randomness for no reason we face here now. Yes that was a long stretch of an analogy, but at least I know every lady 'got it' lol, whether or not they appreciated it...

Whoever took offense gets a pony and a washing machine full of free socks.(god knows it owes).




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