I understand perfectly gnice37. It's okay for others to comment, especially if they are personal attacks on me, eg. fechin to call me an asshole, coward, a cheat. Buddah forbid if I dare express an opinion that runs contrary to their feeble minded dogma.

I had a close friend (a physician) die in Iraq a few years ago for the crime of cleaning up after your lot's holy wars. I guess it's too bad Jesus wasn't around to pick him up and carry him to the base when his convoy hit an IED... Maybe he was on vacation?

Vag I understand and relate to your opinion totally and as I stated at beginning I am not a god person, far from it, I have lost a son, lost a child of cotdeath while babysitting and nearly lost a 2nd son in a span of two years, hence I do not believe. But the words above gave me strength and comfort not for the god side but helped me to help myself and hoped this would just give some of the people on this site that are suffering the same. I didnt want to get into all this with you but as you have already ruined the affect of what the post was about I may as well. We are made up differently physically and emotionally and you should respect what other people feel like you expect the same. Imagine in your time of pain and grieving the way you have if someone come along and told you you were doing it wrong cause of their beliefs. May be a public forum but when people are suffering they are entitled to find comfort in what ever how ever they choose. So can we please drop this issue?

Thank you for your post Dont let the closed minds get to you Madd. Mama said ( hehe ) best ta keep ya mouth shut and just let others think your an ass

I understand perfectly gnice37. It's okay for others to comment, especially if they are personal attacks on me, eg. fechin to call me an asshole, coward, a cheat. Buddah forbid if I dare express an opinion that runs contrary to their feeble minded dogma.

I had a close friend (a physician) die in Iraq a few years ago for the crime of cleaning up after your lot's holy wars. I guess it's too bad Jesus wasn't around to pick him up and carry him to the base when his convoy hit an IED... Maybe he was on vacation?

*Dont Be Mad* wrote
at 5:36 PM, Friday October 31, 2014 CDT
Vag I understand and relate to your opinion totally and as I stated at beginning I am not a god person, far from it, I have lost a son, lost a child of cotdeath while babysitting and nearly lost a 2nd son in a span of two years, hence I do not believe. But the words above gave me strength and comfort not for the god side but helped me to help myself and hoped this would just give some of the people on this site that are suffering the same. I didnt want to get into all this with you but as you have already ruined the affect of what the post was about I may as well. We are made up differently physically and emotionally and you should respect what other people feel like you expect the same. Imagine in your time of pain and grieving the way you have if someone come along and told you you were doing it wrong cause of their beliefs. May be a public forum but when people are suffering they are entitled to find comfort in what ever how ever they choose. So can we please drop this issue?

theres nothing wrong with expressing ones opinion vag.. but at least do it from an informed point of few. whos "holy wars"? On a number of occasions Jesus blatantly condemned such "holy wars" in word and deed. If those involved took those teachings to heart ur friend may still be alive.. but ya why not blame Jesus right? you could blame a lot of people for ur friends death.. Jesus wouldn't be one of them unfortunately.

I remember entering an extremely difficult time in life awhile ago now and reading that poem on my grandmas wall... it brought not only hope and peace but strength as well.. i made it through that particularly terrible time but certainly not without Jesus' direct help. Im truly sorry to read about the losses u've experienced and can understand why they could prevent u from believing. That said, it is my honest prayer that you will see these words in a new light, not just as some kind of metaphor but as truth. God bless and thanks for the thought :)

didnt' mean to include replies.. whoops all the best maddie :)

As much as I like maddie (for me: greeny), I must agree with Vag. True strength comes from inside yourself. It is all about your inner world. Some pple need imaginary personification of this inner world.
Think about it. Everything you have in your mind comes from yourself...

And to maddie (greenie), hugs my dear. It's nice that you posted this to help others. Wether it is 'true' or not...

i have a trademark on greeeny but as long you only use two e's it's ok

One more thing to add to this discussion: everybody is entitled to have and share his own opinion. Maddie (greeny) as well as Vag.
You may disagree with somebody, but you may never forbid one to tell his opinion. If you do that, you're not better then Hitler, ISAL or any dictator. The people who want Vag to shut up or who want to forbid him to express his thoughts, should think about that.
As Montesquieu already said a while ago to his opponent:
'I most strongly disagree with you, but I will fight with everything I have to give you the right to express your thoughts'.
And another one from the same Montesquieu, which might contribute to Vag's (in)famous words against christianity and islam: "Aucun royaume nâ??a tant souffert de guerres civiles que le royaume du Christ."

no one is trying to stifle another's opinion, just that there is a time and place for voicing it, attaching his rant here on this very sensitive post directed at some players here that are suffering illness at the moment is NOT that place, if you cannot see that dari then i feel for you.

Is compassion a religion ?